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Every Week, I Felt
Like an Imposter

Julie Zhuo
Co-founder, Sundial · Fmr. VP Design, Facebook · Author, The Making of a Manager
JUN 7 2022
The Origin

Intern → VP Design
In 13 Years

INTERN MANAGER VP DESIGN FACEBOOK, 8M USERS → META
"The first seven or eight years at Facebook, every single week I felt like an imposter."
  • Joined Facebook as an engineering intern when it had 8 million users
  • Mentor Ruchi told her, "You should go sit next to the designers" — the first time she heard design was a profession
  • Three chapters: learn to design → learn to manage → learn to scale strategy across disciplines
  • Left Meta after 13 years to co-found Sundial (product analytics)
Framework

Writing as Self-Therapy

MANAGERFEEDBACK 52 POSTSIN A YEAR CLEARERTHINKING
"I approach my writing as letters to myself. It is the advice I need to give myself to go do better."
  • The trigger: a 360 said she was quiet in rooms of 7+ people, brilliant in rooms of 2 or 3
  • The resolution: publish 52 times that year, no quality goal, only "hit publish"
  • The habit from NaNoWriMo: chase a word count, not a time slot; ship the draft, revise later
  • By year end, meetings got easier. By many years in, the Looking Glass carried her voice further than her calendar ever could
How the book got written Five nights a week, 500 words a night, for a year. That is a 60–70K word manuscript. Julie applied the NaNoWriMo math to The Making of a Manager.
Framework

The Feedback Ladder

1. VALUABLE — does it solve the problem? 2. USABLE — can they actually do it? 3. JOYFUL — does it delight?
"If the thing isn't valuable, who cares how great the animation was, if it doesn't even load?"
  • Never one review meeting. Run many, with different audiences: design peers, direct team, outside team, target customers
  • All opinions are valid. Consensus never works. The manager's job is synthesis
  • State up front which rung you are testing today, then only accept feedback for that rung
  • Prototype trap: people give color and layout notes on a prototype meant to prove the concept
Playbook

Intuition vs. Data

  • Intuition works when you ARE the target user; that is why early Facebook shipped so well on Stanford campuses
  • It stops working the moment the audience diverges from you; 2008–2009 gave Facebook "a string of spectacular failures"
  • Building outside your own experience? Do the job yourself, or sit with people who do, before you ship
  • Use AB tests for causation. Use interviews for the qualitative side. Both, in that order
The Sundial reason Julie never did the data-analyst job. Now she is building for them, so she spends her time with data scientists, or trying to be one, before designing anything.
Contrarian

Career & Craft Myths Julie Disproves

✗ Impostor feeling means you don't belong INSTEAD → ✓ New role, new territory. Julie felt it for seven or eight years while running design for the Facebook app. The feeling is the deal.
✗ Write when you have something worth saying INSTEAD → ✓ Write to think. Julie's rule was hit publish, not "be good." The clarity comes from the reps, not the polish.
✗ Design and data pull in opposite directions INSTEAD → ✓ One validates the other. Quantitative confirms whether the assumptions the design rests on are actually true.
✗ Get everyone to agree in one review meeting INSTEAD → ✓ Get everyone to disagree across many small ones. Consensus is not a design method. Synthesis is.
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